Comments on: How to Normalize Historical Data for Splits, Dividends, Etc. http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm ...contemplative and analytical by nature... Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:53:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Lumilog http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2365 Lumilog Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:11:29 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-2365 Hi Joe, First off, I think one potential discrepancy is that the Yahoo Finance chart <b>only adjusts for splits</b>, whereas when you use "adjusted close" you're normalizing for both splits and dividends. That being said, I have a Matlab script to do this automatically (click <a href="http://www.luminouslogic.com/matlab_stock_scripts/get_hist_stock_data.m" rel="nofollow">here</a> to get it) and I don't get values close to $16.533 either way. The raw Yahoo historical data (un-normalized) shows a range for the day of $67.75 to $69.31. The Yahoo Finance chart for that day shows $45.667. This is because they're adjusting the average daily price of about $68.50 by 2/3 for the split that happened on June 12, 2000. When I run the Matlab script I get a high and low of $31.93 and $31.21 respectively, which is including the effects of splits and dividends since 8/10/98. Your number seems to be half that - so it's almost like the normalization is happening twice in your code. - Lumi Hi Joe,

First off, I think one potential discrepancy is that the Yahoo Finance chart only adjusts for splits, whereas when you use “adjusted close” you’re normalizing for both splits and dividends.

That being said, I have a Matlab script to do this automatically (click here to get it) and I don’t get values close to $16.533 either way.

The raw Yahoo historical data (un-normalized) shows a range for the day of $67.75 to $69.31. The Yahoo Finance chart for that day shows $45.667. This is because they’re adjusting the average daily price of about $68.50 by 2/3 for the split that happened on June 12, 2000.

When I run the Matlab script I get a high and low of $31.93 and $31.21 respectively, which is including the effects of splits and dividends since 8/10/98. Your number seems to be half that – so it’s almost like the normalization is happening twice in your code.

- Lumi

]]> By: Joe http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2358 Joe Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:50:24 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-2358 Hi there, I have used your formula to normalise the data from yahoo for JPM and have used Excel to do this. However when I compare my JPM chart to the yahoo interactive chart, I find some discrepancies. For example, on 8/10/1998, my chart shows a low of $16.533, whereas on the yahoo interactive chart JPM does not even close below $25 in 1998. Do you know why this is? Thanks Hi there,

I have used your formula to normalise the data from yahoo for JPM and have used Excel to do this.

However when I compare my JPM chart to the yahoo interactive chart, I find some discrepancies. For example, on 8/10/1998, my chart shows a low of $16.533, whereas on the yahoo interactive chart JPM does not even close below $25 in 1998.

Do you know why this is?
Thanks

]]> By: How to Import Stock Statistics into Matlab?luminouslogic? | WhooL ! http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2233 How to Import Stock Statistics into Matlab?luminouslogic? | WhooL ! Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:50:07 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-2233 [...] posts have dealt with how to download historical stock prices into Matlab and how to adjust for splits and dividends so that you can try your luck optimizing neural networks and other homebrewed trading algorithms [...] [...] posts have dealt with how to download historical stock prices into Matlab and how to adjust for splits and dividends so that you can try your luck optimizing neural networks and other homebrewed trading algorithms [...]

]]> By: How to Download Historical Stock Data into Matlab( from: luminouslogic ) http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2230 How to Download Historical Stock Data into Matlab( from: luminouslogic ) Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:49:59 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-2230 [...] doubles. Voila – you’re ready to develop your first simulation! Don’t forget to use the relationship between Adjusted Close and Close to first normalize your data – otherwise 2:1 splits could be [...] [...] doubles. Voila – you’re ready to develop your first simulation! Don’t forget to use the relationship between Adjusted Close and Close to first normalize your data – otherwise 2:1 splits could be [...]

]]> By: Lumilog http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2217 Lumilog Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:20:17 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-2217 Hi Linkster, I think I see what you're talking about. Yes it sounds like it would be best to make the adjustments first on your own using the daily data and then computing your own monthly / weekly highs and lows from that. One other thing - as pointed out by Ran in the other comment above - my script adjusts <b>prices only</b>, not volume. I don't use volume but if you do you might want some additional split logic to adjust it as well. - lumi Hi Linkster,

I think I see what you’re talking about. Yes it sounds like it would be best to make the adjustments first on your own using the daily data and then computing your own monthly / weekly highs and lows from that.

One other thing – as pointed out by Ran in the other comment above – my script adjusts prices only, not volume. I don’t use volume but if you do you might want some additional split logic to adjust it as well.

- lumi

]]> By: Missing_Link http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2211 Missing_Link Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:38:06 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-2211 With respect to Monthly and Weekly historicals, I am running into the issue of how to normalize them. Depending on the type of split and whether the open was higher or lower than the close (1:2 vs. 2:1, for example), if you simply adjust for the ratio of the Adjusted Close to the Close, the weekly/monthly high or low might not actually be the real high or low. I was trying to do this with AIG monthly/weekly data for my self-build stock app and discovered that the simple method applied to daily data didn't work. Would it be, in your opinion, simpler to to simply adjust the daily data and as my app runs through the values to calculate the indicators/averages to aggregate the volumes and record monthly/weekly open/high/low/close from the adjusted daily data rather than coming up with some sort of scheme to adjust the data from Yahoo? Linkster With respect to Monthly and Weekly historicals, I am running into the issue of how to normalize them. Depending on the type of split and whether the open was higher or lower than the close (1:2 vs. 2:1, for example), if you simply adjust for the ratio of the Adjusted Close to the Close, the weekly/monthly high or low might not actually be the real high or low. I was trying to do this with AIG monthly/weekly data for my self-build stock app and discovered that the simple method applied to daily data didn’t work.

Would it be, in your opinion, simpler to to simply adjust the daily data and as my app runs through the values to calculate the indicators/averages to aggregate the volumes and record monthly/weekly open/high/low/close from the adjusted daily data rather than coming up with some sort of scheme to adjust the data from Yahoo?

Linkster

]]> By: Lumilog http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1909 Lumilog Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:28:49 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-1909 You are absolutely correct - never thought about that b/c so far I've never used volume in any of my trading simulations. I'll update the script first chance I get and thanks much for pointing this out. - Lumi You are absolutely correct – never thought about that b/c so far I’ve never used volume in any of my trading simulations.

I’ll update the script first chance I get and thanks much for pointing this out.

- Lumi

]]> By: Ran http://luminouslogic.com/how-to-normalize-historical-data-for-splits-dividends-etc.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1907 Ran Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:16:35 +0000 http://luminouslogic.com/archives/8#comment-1907 Hello, I wonder why you don't adjust the volume as well. Looking at your example, on the 28-Nov-2006 volume was 3 Million share, at a share price that ranged 45.5 to 46.5 this means that ~137M$ were traded on this stock that given day. After the adjusting you loose this data, it seems like only 90 M$ were traded that day. Where am I wrong about this? Or should volume be adjusted as well ??? Hello,

I wonder why you don’t adjust the volume as well.
Looking at your example, on the 28-Nov-2006 volume was 3 Million share, at a share price that ranged 45.5 to 46.5 this means that ~137M$ were traded on this stock that given day.

After the adjusting you loose this data, it seems like only 90 M$ were traded that day.

Where am I wrong about this?
Or should volume be adjusted as well ???

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